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Mining GroestlCoin for beginners using SPH4SGMiner (AMD)

Greetings miners and welcome into the world of Groestl, an advanced hashing
algorithm.
What is Grøstl?
This new algorithm has many new advantages; it provides a very efficient way
to mine coins. In fact, the Grøstl algorithm requires NOTICEABLY less power;
thus produces a lot less heat. It also improves the lifetime of your mining
hardware because of the previous 2 advantages.
With the summer approaching, Grøstl will become very handy and will have
you save a ton of money over power and cooling. It is new, revolutionary and
the coin that brought it to life is GroestlCoin. Backed by a strong community,
this algorithm has many advantages.
Grøstl is unlike any other algos in the SHA4family. The Grøstl algo has a unique
similarity to AES compared to other algos, allowing devices with AES
Acceleration implementations (e.g. AES4NI for Intel and NEON for ARM) to
provide dramatic improvements when hashing Grøstl.
The humorous name is a play on words meaning Hash (hashed browns) in
Austrian. The word Grøstl is spelt with a Danish ø, because the Grøstl Team is a
'hash' of Danish and Austrian cryptographers.
How can I mine it?
To begin mining GrøstlCoin you need to subscribe to a pool.
To find pools for your Grøstl coin of your choice, you can select from the
available pools in the Official Pool list of the forum. On this guide, we will use
grs.cryptohunger.com which offers reliability and good support. 
You also need to setup a miner, or mining software on your computer that you
will be mining with. We will only show how to mine with some models of the
latest AMD cards, which are usually the standard in mining. Some might have
older GPUs, the settings will differ a lot. Please consult our database of device
settings if yours is not mentioned below.
Once you acquired the miner, and registered on a pool, you will need to
configure your miner. We will cover that later.
 
Registering on a pool
First, you should start by registering at grs.cryptohunger.com. On the top4right,
you will see a drop4down menu. Simply go over there and select register.
Enter all the required information, select a complex password, and also a PIN.
You will need that NIP later to withdraw your coins or change settngs in your
accounts.

Creating workers

In order for your mining software to reach the pool and starts mining, you
need to have “workers”. Different workers should be used for each of your
mining rigs.
Log in the pool, and select the “My Workers” link under the My Account tab.
When creating your workers, make sure NOT to use the same password you
use for your account.
The worker passwords do not need to be too crazy as they can be seen by the
pool administrators and are transmitted in plain text. The “worse” thing that
could happen, if somebody has your worker password, is that he could mine on
your worker. Basically, that would credit YOU for whatever he mines on YOUR
workers, so no worry here you can use any password there.
Your workers will be used in your mining software combined with your pool
username. If your username is joeblow123 and your worker is miner1 with a
password like pass1, the string you would use as your username in your mining
configuration would be joeblow.123 .
 
Mining software
In order to mine GroestlCoin, you will need to use a compatible mining
software. We recommend using sph4sgminer 4.1.0 and up, as it supports the
GroestlCoin (Grøstl) kernel.
Here is a couple of links where you can grab SPH4SGMINER and download it to
your PC:
 
      Official Forum Thread: h`ps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?
topic=475795.0
     
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Windows (SPH): 

h`ps://mega.co.nz/# ftAYgiDbT
8dQtGr2H5C5JKbH9ljUn7oHzB9ij3If7HFCKmSEFw48 
      Windows (Regular) : h`p://www.sgminerwindows.com/ 
      Linux Source (SPH): h`ps://github.com/pre`yhatemachine/sph4
sgminer 
      Linux Source (Regular): h`ps://github.com/sgminer4dev/sgminer 
 

Install AMD Catalyst Control Center

First you must install the correct driver and version of Catalyst Control Center
for your GPU. Installing CCC also installs the OpenCL libraries required for
mining. Use the AMD support page to identify to software version you require:
h`p://support.amd.com/en4us/download
 
Install TrixX 
Download and install Sapphire TrixX (or MSI Afterburner). This software will
allow you to over/under clock your GPU core4clock and memory clock speed. It
will also display your current (default) clock settngs. You need this information
to configure SPH4SGMiner.
You can download Trixx from: h`ps://www.sapphireselectclub.com/ssc/Triftft/
You can download Afterburner from: h`p://event.msi.com/vga/afterburner/
download.htm
 
Configuring SPH-SGMiner
Extract the downloaded zip file wherever you want on your computer. Once
you have a sgminer folder, you can start preparing your BATCH file. This will
start the miner along with your desired configuration proper to the mining
hardware you are using.
Open NOTEPAD, and start creating your batch executable. Some fields will
require modifications; we will cover that after this step.
Start by pasting the following:
You will need to replace USERNAME.WORKERNAME with the username and
worker you have setup earlier on the pool. Returning to our example, we
would be entering “4u joeblow.123 4p pass1”
The thread-concurrency, I, lookup-gap, workersize, g, gpu-engine and gpumemclock
settngs will differ depending on the model of video card you are
using for mining. Use the table below to find basic settngs for different types
of cards. Check in Trixx to make sure (same GPU model may vary).
Save the .txt file as ”sgstart.bat” and make sure to save it in your SGMINER’s
folder. You can create a shortcut from there to your desktop, but the BATCH file
has to be in sgminer’s folder. Now that you are all set, you can start mining 
Simply double click your sgstart.bat file and enjoy mining Grøstl 
Quote
setx GPU_MAft_ALLOC_PERCENT
100

setx GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS
1

sgminer.exe --kernel groestlcoin -o stratum+tcp://
cryptohunger.com:3333 -u USERNAME.WORKERNAME -p
WORKERPASSWORD --thread-concurrency 8192 -I 20 --lookupgap
2 -- worksize 256 -g 1 --gpu-engine 1100 --gpumemclock
1500 --gpu- powertune 20

 
AMD GPU Model Settings
For a detailed list see here
 
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Once you get going, you can then further tweak your settngs. The relevant
ones are Intensity, Coreclock and Memclock settngs. 
WARNING'
Changing your AMD GPU’s default clock settngs should be done using Trixx or
MSI Afterburner before editing your .bat accordingly. Editing the .bat without
using over4clocking software may harm your GPU and result in errors

Model Hashrate Settings
Quote
2ti0x ~11MH/s
 I#20# w#256#  lookup gap#2#  thread concurrency#81ti2#  gpu #
powertune#20#  gpu engine#ti70#  gpu memclock#1400
2ti0 ~tiMH/s 4I 20 4g 1 4w 256 44gpu4engine 1100 —gpu4memclock 1500 44thread4
concurrency 22400 44gpu4 powertune 20
280x ~7MH/s 4I 20 4g 1 44thread4concurrency 81ti2 44gpu4engine 1100 44gpu4
memclock 1500 4w 256 44gpu4 powertune 20
7ti50 ~5.5MH/s
 I#20# g#1#  thread concurrency#22400#  gpu engine#1100#  gpu
memclock#1000# w#256#  gpu #powertune#20
5770 ~3.2MH/s
 I#20# g#1#  thread concurrency#81ti2#  gpu engine#850#  gpu
memclock#1250# w#128#  gpu #powertune#20
To make sure your miner is properly configured, you need to check in your
miner if you are gettng hardware errors. This can be seen as HW:0 in sgminer,
which would be a good sign.
If you ever get HW errors, turn of the machine immediately and contact us in
the forum or on IRC. Bad hardware will also produce those errors, but most of
the time it’s related to configuration settngs.
*Note: A lot of people who paste their config settngs from Scrypt4configs
might experience a lot of HW errors. You will need to lower down your
memclock speed until you see it is stable. You then raise the Coreclock slowly
upwards. Try to add small amounts at the time. If you fiddle with your settngs
enough, you might get decent hashpower gains out of it.
Compared to scrypt, Grøstl has increased hashrate. You want to aim for; 
Quote
Rti 2ti0x ~ 11.5Mh/s

Rti 2ti0 ~ tiMh/s

Rti 280x ~7Mh/s                                                                                                   
HD7ti50 ~ 5.5Mh/s
What might get you confused is the low number of accepts. This is normal and
your WU should be really low.
 
Multiple GPU Settings
If you have more than one AMD card you will need to add extra commands
after commas. In the example below we have created a command for two 280x
cards. See how it differs to the one above.
Quote
setx GPU_MAft_ALLOC_PERCENT
100

setx GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS
1

sgminer.exe --kernel groestlcoin -o stratum+tcp://
cryptohunger.com:3333 -u USERNAME.WORKERNAME -p
WORKERPASSWORD --thread-concurrency 8192, 8192 -I 20, 20
--lookup-gap 2, 2 -- worksize 256, 256 -g 1, 1 --gpuengine
1100, 1100 --gpu-memclock 1500, 1500 --gpu-
powertune 20, 20

So now if I add a third 280x to my rig the command would looks like:
Quote
setx GPU_MAft_ALLOC_PERCENT
100

setx GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS
1

sgminer.exe --kernel groestlcoin -o stratum+tcp://
cryptohunger.com:3333 -u USERNAME.WORKERNAME -p
WORKERPASSWORD --thread-concurrency 8192, 8192, 8192 -I
20, 20, 20 --lookup-gap 2, 2, 2 -- worksize 256, 256, 256
-g 1, 1, 1 --gpu-engine 1100, 1100, 1100 --gpu-memclock
1500, 1500, 1500 --gpu- powertune 20, 20, 20
Remember these settngs differ for every model of card.
If you are using different models of GPU you need to determine what ORDER
the cards go in when writing your command (does my 5770 come before or
after my 280x when creating this command?, for example)
sgminer.exe -n
This will show you your cards labelled 0, 1 , 2 etc. and the order your gpu
commands should go in.
 
 
The conf file
Instead of issuing the command above some users prefer to create/edit a .conf
file. The conf file is created in the SGMiner folder just like the bat was using
Notepad. The bat command changes to point at the conf file, like this:
 
Quote
setx GPU_MAft_ALLOC_PERCENT
100

setx GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS
1

sgminer.exe -c name-of-your.conf
 
Using a conf makes it is easier to gain granular control over your cards.  The
configuration (conf) file for a single 280x should something look like this
(depending on which 280x you have):
 
 
From the GroestlCoin Team

Quote
{
"pools" : [
  {
    "url" : "stratum+tcp://first-pool.com:3333",
    "user" : “your.worker”,
    "pass" : “your pass”
  },
  {
    "url" : "stratum+tcp://backup-pool1.com:3333",
    "user" : “your.worker”,
    "pass" : “your pass”  }
],
 "
kernel" : “groestlcoin”
"intensity" : “20, 20”,
"thread-concurrency" : “8192, 8192”,
"lookup-gap" : “2, 2",
"worksize" : “256, 256",
"gpu-engine" : “1100, 1100",
"gpu-fan" : “0-85, 0-85”,
"gpu-memclock" : “1500, 1500”,
"gpu-threads" : “2, 2",
"gpu-powertune" : “20, 20”,
"temp-cutoff" : “83, 83",
"temp-overheat" : “80, 80",
"temp-target" : “70, 70",
 "
auto-fan" : true,
"auto-gpu" : true,
"expiry" : "120",
"failover-only" : true,
"log" : "5",
"queue" : "4",
"scan-time" : "40",
"temp-hysteresis" : "3",
"no-submit-stale" : true

 
 
Copy/Paste the above into a Notepad file and save it as whatever.conf. Edit the
pool, backup pool and gpu information accordingly. As before a multi4gpu conf
will have extra commands after commas. This is not necessary for every
parameter as you’ll observe:
 
 
Quote
{
"pools" : [
  {
    "url" : "stratum+tcp://first-pool.com:3333",
    "user" : “your.worker”,
    "pass" : “your pass”
  },
  {
    "url" : "stratum+tcp://backup-pool1.com:3333",
    "user" : “your.worker”,
    "pass" : “your pass”  }
],
 "
kernel" : “groestlcoin”
"intensity" : “20”,
"thread-concurrency" : “8192”,
"lookup-gap" : "0",
"worksize" : “256",
"gpu-threads" : "2",
"gpu-engine" : "1100",
"gpu-fan" : “0-85",
"gpu-memclock" : "1500”,
"gpu-powertune" : “20”,
"temp-cutoff" : "83",
"temp-overheat" : "80",
"temp-target" : "70",
 "
auto-fan" : true,
"auto-gpu" : true,
"expiry" : "120",
"failover-only" : true,
"log" : "5",
"queue" : "4",
"scan-time" : "40",
"temp-hysteresis" : "3",
"no-submit-stale" : true
 }
 

We hope all those informations were enough to get you going. Our mining
community is very active, and are always helpful to beginners,
Happy mining

From the GroestlCoin Team


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Trading Discussion / A Basic Guide On How To Start Trading On MintPal
« on: June 18, 2014, 06:18:27 pm »
A Basic Guide On How To Start Trading On MintPal
In this post we will look at how you can start to invest in the Groestlcoin cryptocurrency using your available bitcoin (BTC). Please note that this is meant to be a beginners’ guide (not the be-all-and-and-all guide, but more of a basic how-to).

The exchange that I will be using as an example will be MintPal as it is one of the very best exchanges out there for its selection of available currencies, volume and it is very simple to use. There are a lot of available exchanges that you can use instead of MintPal, but after having used most of them at one point or another, the security and support from MintPal goes far beyond most. So without further ado, let’s start trading.

First you will need to register for a MintPal account. This is completely free and should only take you a couple of minutes.

How to enable 2FA on MintPal
Once you have created your account on MintPal, the first thing you should do, and this goes for any currency exchange you may choose to use, is to enable Two-Factor Authentication. (2FA) This means that every time you log on to your account, you will need to enter your password as well as a sequence of numbers that are generated using the Google Authenticator app. These numbers will change every 30 seconds. The Google Authenticator app is available for Android devices and iOS. For Windows mobile users, you can use the Microsoft Authenticator app.

Android
iOS
Windows Mobile



To enable 2FA on your MintPal account, log in and head to your Profile area. You can find this and other useful areas for MintPal by using the drop-down menu on your username (top right-hand corner)


 
Once in your Profile area, scroll down to where you can enable 2FA.

Once you click to enable 2FA, you will be presented with a unique QR Code that you will need to scan using your Google (or Microsoft) Authenticator app. Before you scan the code and enter the required numbers, make sure that you make a note of the 2FA Secret Key that is also generated for you underneath the QR Code. If you lose your mobile device and have 2FA enabled, then this will be the only way you will be able to access your account.

Open the app and go: Settings>Set up account>Scan a barcode. Just hold your device to the computer screen and it will scan it instantly. Once it has scanned, it will show you a sequence of 6 numbers and a 30 second countdown timer next to it. Enter the numbers as shown in the screen shot above to your MintPal account and hit Verify. Try to do this before the timer runs out otherwise you will have to wait until the next set of numbers are generated.



Once you have added the verification code supplied via the app, you will see that 2FA is now enabled for your account.

The other great security precautions that you have on MintPal is the requirement to confirm any withdrawals from your account via a confirmation email. This is sent to you every time you send money from your account, and will require you to click on the link in the email that you will receive from MintPal asking you to log in again. I would also advise that you have 2FA enabled on your email account as well, which is something that most of the top email providers have. Remember, this is money we are dealing with here, so the better the security you have in place, the safer your bitcoin and other currencies will be.



Transfer BTC to Mintpal
Now that we have enabled the security requirements on the account, we can start to trade. Firstly, you will need to transfer your bitcoin (BTC) from your desktop wallet (or wherever you currently keep it) to MintPal. I will be using the official Bitcoin-qt wallet as an example to transfer some BTC over to MintPal to start trading.

Firstly, you will need to generate a Deposit Address for the bitcoins that you will be sending to your MintPal account. To generate this address head to your Balances area on MintPal. Use the same drop-down menu that you accessed your Profile from.

Once you are in your Balances area, scroll down to where you see Bitcoin. This will be towards the top of the page as they are listed alphabetically. To the right of the BTC entry, click on the Actions drop-down menu and choose Deposit BTC.

Now select Generate Deposit Address


This will now generate a unique address that you can use to send BTC to your MintPal account. You can create as many of these as you need, but just the one should be fine. Now copy that address by either clicking on Copy, or CTRL+C it. (Windows users)


Now we have the BTC address that we want to send the coins to, lets open our desktop wallet to send the coins from. When you first open your wallet, select the Send tab. Paste the MintPal Deposit address in to the Pay To box and then give it a label like, ‘MintPal BTC Deposit address’. This way you will know what BTC address belongs to which wallet for future reference. Now just add the amount of BTC that you want to send to MintPal to trade with.


Once you have entered the amount and other information, hit Send. If you have encrypted your wallet (which you should have) you will have to enter the passphrase for your desktop wallet. Accept the fees that you are asked for (these are tiny and go to paying the miners that confirm and help with transaction on the Block Chain.)


Once you have sent the amount of BTC over to MintPal that you chose, you will have to wait approximates 1hr for it to appear on your MintPal account. This is down to the transaction speed of Bitcoin, the required confirmations needed and the exchange that you are transferring to. Transferring other coins can take a significantly shorter amount of time though, which is why it’s great to see some exchanges now pairing with certain coins. For example, on MintPal you can use Litecoin (LTC) to trade for certain other coins instead of BTC.

Keep an eye on your Balances sheet to see when the coins have been made available for trade. Whilst the amount of BTC that you sent to MintPal is awaiting its required confirmations, it will appear in Pending Deposits.

Once it shows in your Available Balance, you are ready to trade.

Trade Groestlcoin for Bitcoin
Trading Groestlcoin for Bitcoin is as simple as deciding what price you’re willing to accept for it. The main thing is not to get greedy and ask too large of a price, because other traders will have an idea of how much GRS is worth to them in relation to Bitcoin. You can choose an ask price you consider fair – basically the ask price is the amount of BTC that people with Groestlcoin want to receive per full GRS. Or you can choose to make things easy and simply sell it to somebody by matching their bid price, which is the amount that traders who want to buy GRS are willing to pay for it.

While exploring the world of altcoins, you may notice that it is possible to divide up any cryptocurrency into very small fractions. On Mintpal, most cryptocurrencies are worth fractions of either Bitcoin or Litecoin. The prices change often, but at any given moment, a full unit of Groestlcoin might be worth 0.00000365 Bitcoin and I’ve seen it as high as 0.00000579 Bitcoin. So knowing what any cryptocurrency might go for at any given time is very helpful.


Trading all or part of your available bitcoin for one of the other alternative currencies available on MintPal is fairly simple. Select your coin from the left to see its current buys and sells as well as its current 24hr volume on MintPal and Price/Growth & Depth charts. For the purposes of this tutorial I will be using Groestlcoin (GRS) as my alt coin of choice to buy using BTC as it has been doing very well over the past 24hrs and has some large sways in price due to its current volatility.

The prices of alt coins that are available to buy or sell on MintPal (and most other exchanges) are normally compared to how much they are worth against the latest price of bitcoin. (BTC) For example, 1 Groestlcoin (GRS) may cost you 0.00000300BTC per coin. However, on forums or other discussion boards you will hear people talking about how many satochi’s each coin is worth. In the example of GRS which I have just mentioned, people will refer to this as being at a price of 23K Sats. (Satoshi’s) The reason that people will talk about a coins price in sats rather that xxxBTC is because it is easier to express. A satoshi is the smallest fraction of a bitcoin, with 1 satoshi (Sat) being the smallest. It then increases up to (and beyond) to 1 bitcoin’s worth. (1.00000000 sats)

Below is a very basic explanation that I created to try to explain better:





Buying Groestlcoin with BTC
So let’s go ahead and buy some GRS using the BTC that we now have available to trade. Take a look at the screen shot below where I have outlined the relevant areas.

You can choose to trade the full amount of BTC to GRS (or whatever coin you choose) or input the amount of GRS that you want to buy and it will tell you how much (including the 0.15% transaction fee) it will cost you in the Net Total. In the example above I have put in a buy order for 0.1GRS which will cost me 0.00000030BTC. Note that this is just an example of how much of a coin you can buy. If you want 1 or 1,000,000 GRS, then you just add the amount of required coins in the Amount box and it will work everything out for you.

However, in this example I will be trading all of my BTC to GRS. Now instead of tying to figure out how many GRS coins you can get for your available BTC at current prices, you can simply click on your available amount (in green text next to ‘Your BTC balance is:’) and it will work it out for you. When you are happy with that, simply hit Submit Buy Order, then confirm the order to send it to market.

Note that if the market for that coin is in a state of volatility (the price is going up and down constantly) then if you take too long to hit send, then your order might not be fulfilled instantly, but it will go through. For example, if the price of GRS was trading at 0.00000300BTC per GRS when you were placing your order but you took a 30 seconds to actually hit Submit Buy Order, then the price of the coin may have increase slightly (or by a couple of thousand satoshi (sats) which can happen at times if a coin is rising very fast)) then you may have to wait until the price return to 0.00000300BTC per coin for the order to go through. If this does happen, don’t panic as you can cancel the order when ever you wish by selecting the Cancel box next to your Active Orders.

Note that if the order is in the middle of being fulfilled due to the price you chose to buy/sell at is reached, then you may not be able to cancel. You will see a message warning you of this every time you cancel a buy or sell order. Just take your time. After you have submitted a buy or sell order, you will see a confirmation box appear with a simple Yes or No, as to whether you wish to proceed.

Once your buy order has gone through, you will be notified via a pop-up info box telling you that you have purchased xxx amount of coins. If the buy or sell order doesn’t get fulfilled in one lump, which is often the case, then you may see multiple notifications informing you as and when the are fulfilled.

You can also check on existing Buy or Sell orders that you may have made by checking your current open orders. To see these select the drop-down menu from the top right hand corner and choose Orders. Any Open Orders for a specific coin will also show when you have that coins particular page open.

Once you have started to buy various coins then the amount of coins will be displayed in your account balances window that can be seen in the top left hand corner along with their combined value in BTC as well as how much you have available to sell when you choose. The more coins you start investing in, the longer this list will be.

Selling Groestlcoins
Selling Groestlcoin is basically the same process in reverse. You decide the amount of Groestlcoin you want to sell, how much you will accept for it in Bitcoin, and plug that information into the appropriate fields on the Sell Groestlcoin side of the trading page. Then, hit “Submit sell order.” If it matches any of the prices on the Buy Orders list, you just sold some Groestlcoin. If not, or if you entered an amount of Groestlcoin that is more than the amount available at that price, your order will be added to the “Sell Orders” list.

Again, you will have to confirm the order before it finally goes to market.

Viewing your Trade History

This is one of the main areas of MintPal that I use quite a bit as it reminds me of what price I had previously bought or sold a coin for, so I know if I am going to make a profit or loss.

You can see in the screen shot below that I have highlighted where I bought GRS in Blue. I initially bought in with my BTC when the price of GRS was at 0.00000300 which gave me 1,963 GRS. I then sold an hour later when the price rose to 0.00000400BTC per GRS giving me a small profit on my initial investment.

The price then dipped down to 0.00000250 sats, so I bought in again (hoping that it would rise later) giving me 2,027 GRS. I now have more GRS than I initially bought. I wasn’t concerned that the price was higher or lower. The only consideration was that I would end up with more coins than I originally started with.

After doing the same again just under 24hrs later when the price had risen further allowing me to sell for a better profit, and then later buy back in again, I ended up with a total of  2,061 GRS.

So I went from originally buying 1,963 GRS to 2,061 GRS, by following the golden rule of buying low (on the dips) and selling high.

A coin may correct itself from time to time meaning that you may see a price drop, (depending on the price of the coin this may be by quite a bit) which will then start to rise (or fall if it’s doing badly) at some point later. Try not to panic when this happens. See if you can find out from other investors as to why this is happening via their forums, reddit threads or IRC channels where possible. Also, if you do start to make a decent profit margin (ROI- Return of Investment) then trade to sell a certain amount so that you at least have your original investment (or more) should the price dive and never recover to the high prices again

Keep an eye on the price of your coins
There are quite a few ways to keep an eye on the latest prices of your alt coin investments, including your coins IRC channel, (very worth keeping a daily eye on) the exchange where you actually purchased the coins, (like MintPal, Poloniex, Cryptsy etc) or the BitCoinTalk threads. However, I stumbled across my main way for real-time prices of coins about a month ago on reddit, called CountMyCrypto which currently indexes the prices of 295 alt coins and counting, and the  rates are derived from an average of trade data on Cryptsy, CoinMarketCap, Mintpal and Poloniex. I have their site permanently on my mobile’s home screen to keep and eye and them wherever I am. Really useful tool to have and the developers behind CountMyCrypto are really fast at answering questions. Below is a made up screenshot showing a few coins and their current value in BTC. You can switch the BTC view to show their worth in USD, GBP, EUR as well as many other currencies with ease. The clean interface of the site looks great both on your computer and your mobile device.

Definitely something you should start to use, and best of all it’s free.



That’s really it for a basic look at buying and selling alt coins on MintPal, although it may be slightly different on other exchanges as their layouts will be different. (some are very cluttered and confusing making navigation annoying) However, I would like to add a few tips that may help you when deciding on what coin to invest in as well as best buying/selling practises.

◾Never become emotionally involved in a coin - By this I mean, if you have followed a coin from the very beginning, but the coin starts to perform badly, then walk away from it. This may mean making a loss, but hanging on to your bag of coins in the hope that it may one day improve can be a bad idea. That isn’t always the case as some coins have started out well enough, then an issue is found in the code leading to people dumping the coin and the price plummeting. Then sometime later, the community involved with that coin may pull together and fix the issues with the coin and it will grow again. An example of this is Whitecoin (WC) which has had a very bad couple of weeks due to the original developer coding the coin doing a bad job on it when it transitioned from PoW (Proof of Work) to PoS. (Proof of Stake) The community then pulled together and had a few great coders work on a fix. The coin is now great and will hopefully reach its full potential in the near future. If you followed the nightmare that Whitecoin has gone though recently then you will know what a fantastic achievement they have accomplished. I must also thank MintPal-Jay (owner of MintPal) for his support with the community as well.
◾Always buy low and sell high - This is a fairly obvious one, but some people do make bad decisions when it comes to money. By selling high and buying low, you can increase the amount of coins you have over time, when done right. Keep an eye on the charts as well as what may be happening in the IRC channels for your coin. There can be a lot of FUD on some IRC channels screaming SELL! SELL! or BUY! BUY! Do the research and use your common sense. At the end of the day this is your money, so don’t listed to every comment or though about a coin.
◾Never buy a coin the second it hits a new exchange - 9 times out of 10, the second a new coin is introduced to MintPal that had currently been traded on other exchanges, the price will rise rapidly giving you a false reading of the coins actual worth. Best practice is to wait for the pumping to finish and then take a look at buying into it. An example of this would be 365coin (365) that exploded on MintPal the second it hit the market, reaching a price of 9BTC per coin. (expensive, but the amount of coins are very limited) 1 Day later the coin was trading at 3BTC per coin, meaning that people who got caught up in the buying frenzy in the first couple of hours the coin started on MintPal made a loss. This isn’t anything against 365 as it is a decent coin and only 1 coin is released per day making them hard to get hold of a whole one. The price is currently 1.65000000 sats (BTC) but will hopefully rise at some point
◾Do your research - Whenever you start to invest in a coin it is always a very good idea to look at what the coin has to offer and what makes it different from the other hundreds of coins out there. Find out a bit about the developer. Is he or she active in the community? What is the community like? Did the coin have an IPO (sometimes this is needed if the coin devs (developers) want to set a certain amount aside for PR marketing, faucets or bloggers to write about the coin to get a better social feel for it. Is the coin a PoW coin (can it be mined) or a PoS coin. (can’t be mined any more) If it is a PoS coin, does it have a dedicated multipool that will allow miners to mine other alt coins that will then trade to BTC and but their coin on the exchanges to pay the miners. An example of this would be Blackcoin and now Whitecoin. A multipool is a great way of creating a constant buy pressure on the coin, and the more people mining on the multipools, the better the buy pressure. If the coin is a PoS coin, then what is the inflation set to? The lower the better. Blackcoin has a 1% inflation rate meaning that to keep the price stable on the markets, it takes less BTC to do so and people who hold their coins in their wallets will make 1% of their coins back over a year. Some coins have unrealistic inflation rates (50& onwards) that I try to avoid. I will try to buy into a coin that is PoS, no IPO, low-interest rate, (1% to 5% is good) has a decent and competent developer/s and has a large and active community. Examples of great communities are Blackcoin (BC), Dogecoin (DOGE) and recently Whitecoin (WC) who have bought their coin back from the point of death to a fully working and great looking coin due to a massive community effort.
◾Don’t keep your coins on the exchange (or other sites) any longer than you have to - The ability to trade alt coins will mean that you will have to place your money on an exchange like MintPal in order to do so. However, you must remember that the exchange is still a third-party holding on to your money whilst you trade, but won’t in most cases assume any responsibility for any money that may get stolen, or worse vanish completely due to the exchange collapsing completely. An example of this would be the MtGox fiasco earlier this year that saw millions of dollars worth of BTC lost due to shady goings on at that company. MintPal is though however, in my eyes at least, a very safe bet when it comes to storing coins for lengths of time as the owner is very active in various communities and their support staff are on the ball when it comes to assisting people with issues. That said, whenever possible always transfer your coins back to your desktop wallet when you are done trading so that you, and you alone, are responsible for their security. Remember that this is your money.
◾Never invest more than you are willing to lose - Remember that you are essentially putting down your money on the table and hoping that by investing in a coin, that it will rise in value and give you a nice profit. It you can’t afford to lose whatever amount you are going to invest in, then don’t start.
◾Don’t panic buy or Sell to false rumours - There are a lot of people out there that are more than happy to take your money away from you by spreading false rumours about a coin. (referred to as FUD) On pretty much every BitCoinTalk thread for whatever coin there is, you are always going to bump into trolls that will be screaming everything from, ‘This coin is dead’, to ‘BUY NOW!! This coin is going to da moon!’ Just use your common sense and invest accordingly. The other thing that can cause people to panic is when a whale (an investor with a lot of BTC to spare) starts buying or selling huge amounts of a coin in order to try to manipulate the price of the coin in order to get people to think that the price of the coin id starting to rise or fall dramatically. The only reason that they will do this is to either rise the price high enough so that they can dump later for a big profit, or to decrease the price low enough so that they can buy up at a cheap price from people who panic sold when they saw the price tumble. Whales are annoying, but can have their uses at times. Best not to play their games though.

That’s pretty much it to be honest, but I will be adding more as I see fit. I really hope that this has been of use as when I first started in Bitcoin a few months ago now, I had to learn a few hard lessons along the way, before feeling comfortable about doing larger trades.

If you have any other tips that may also help people new to trading, then please reply with your suggestions.

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